Curse

Sekkira · Apr 12, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

/signed.

it's one thing to drop it in the middle of a match to cap the altar, it's a completely other thing to drop it at the end out of spite to the ones holding so they can't obtain their spoils for the match won.

Wyldchild777 · Apr 12, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Greetings,

/signed
It does suck that people are not getting the only tangible reward for winning the HoH. My thought - does the spirit die at the same time as the players? Would that take care of the issue? If not...

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Originally Posted by widowdaballa

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Ok, why not A-net just make it so that when a match is over, NO MORE DAMAGE CAN BE DEALT TO ANYTHING!? No creature, no npc, no player, nothing. That would get rid of the exploit and any other one that may pop up later.

For specific timing, when the match ends, the winning team becomes invulnerable to ALL damage. One or two seconds later, everything on the map is dealt lethal damage (perhaps 9999).

Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777

Pillz_veritas · Apr 12, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

I Dont pvp at all... Simply Put EoE Is my Favorite PvE Spirit for many reasons, And if it gets nerfed because of this im going to be pissed to freaking hell....

If all spirits Die at the end of battle, Everyone is happy so /signed
If they resurect the winning party 3 seconds after the other party gets auto killed /signed
If they make it so that they Dont die in the end and get auto-tped to HA /signed
If they change the skill in anyway to make it Any worse at all Definatly NOT signed

Cowboy Nastyman · Apr 12, 2006, 11:27 AM // 11:27

my simple suggestion for this problem would be to have your unclaimed items appear at the start of the next hall match much like they do after a mission

quickmonty · Apr 12, 2006, 11:42 AM // 11:42

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Originally Posted by xRustyx

Listen up folks. I want this thread to be kept clean as possible and have minimum derailment, which is impossible, especially on GWG, but I'm going to try my best.

The point here is not to flame idiots who have no clue what they're on about.

This post's purpose is to inform Area.net that this bug must be fixed, and the Tombs population would like it if it would be fixed in a time period of 2 or 3 updates, not a few months after Factions. THERE. IS. NO. ARGUEMENT. WHETHER. THIS. IS. A. BUG. OR. NOT.

Either you /sign, or unless you absolutely have to, FLAME THAT NOOB. Try not to repeat what other people have said though.

If the point is NOT to flame, why make such a caustic remark?

Blaster The Warrior · Apr 12, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by xRustyx

It's been, what, 4 months? Arena.net needs to fix it so when Edge of Extinction drops in Halls of Heroes, it doesn't kill everyone on the map AND LEAVE them dead till the next match begins, therefore not getting any of the drops.

Please don't leave this bug fix 5 months later. /sign here if you agree, and you think I'm really awesome, and if you think I suck for being a Tombs scrub.

you suck because of the last part XD

the other part is probly ok

Mister Muhkuh · Apr 12, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by Legacy Virus

just ignore him, hes one of those sore losers who cant win in halls so he does this and then fights against something that clearly needs to be fixed

1.and u seem to be a snobbish "winner" in HoH
only because some1 doesnt win in HoH(maybe he doesnt even try) he is not a loser...
2.@threadstarter: u are not awesome

so:

/not signed

Kabale · Apr 12, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26

This is a retarded thread but has a good point.

It's not about nerfing EoE, it's about fixing a broken HoH mechanic

skretth · Apr 12, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

Its called Mark of Protection, Countered. Stop whining you loosers, Or you could get outside of the spirits range. Or you could kill it. Or you could have some one with above 570 health. There are tons of counters, Think creativly.

find a way to MoP 8 ppl in under 5 seconds and keep it up until match ends

sure lets go kill it when there is 1 seond remaining because they had just put it down

sure, lets run CLEAR OUT OF THE ALTER ROOM across teh whole minimap

1 person above 570 will do nothing, the other 7 on your team die, thats another 7*36dmg u have to deal with.

so no.. not really.. there are not that many counters

i think the best way to "fix" this bug would be have everyone on winning party res 5 secnds AFTER the match has ended.. not AS teh match ends

Dr Strangelove · Apr 12, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

If someday, god willing, I ever make it to the Hall, and by some fluke, my team actually manages to win, I would cry like a little girl. The issue is NOT the balance of EoE or finding a counter or any of that. Players are dying after they have already won, and are not rezzed, leaving those drops to go to waste. In PVE, this would be like if as soon as you killed the darkness in tombs you were instantly teleported out.

Klmpee · Apr 12, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

Its called Mark of Protection, Countered. Stop whining you loosers, Or you could get outside of the spirits range. Or you could kill it. Or you could have some one with above 570 health. There are tons of counters, Think creativly.

okay cool guy... so easy to counter when your whole team is dead and still have the alter and you win and die agian. man thats smart(majority of the time this does not happen but it still does). " hey guys lets leave the ghost on the alter while we run out of eoe's range"... " hey guys lets not wear sup runes of minus health"
or how bout... 20 secs left... no one notices a eoe.. why? because they aare all busy yelling and screaming at the monks to do their best to keep ghost alive.. okay gg.

it not a thread about nerfing eoe.

Count to Potato · Apr 12, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

/sign

xRustyx · Apr 12, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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If the point is NOT to flame, why make such a caustic remark?

Because I couldn't find a better word that was less offensive than idiot.

Kool Pajamas · Apr 13, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

If someday, god willing, I ever make it to the Hall, and by some fluke, my team actually manages to win, I would cry like a little girl. The issue is NOT the balance of EoE or finding a counter or any of that. Players are dying after they have already won, and are not rezzed, leaving those drops to go to waste. In PVE, this would be like if as soon as you killed the darkness in tombs you were instantly teleported out.

Exactly

/signed

I havent won halls before but when I do I want to be able to claim my prize.

mint · Apr 13, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24

lol rusty....still bitter about not getting that sigil?

/signed

Str0b0 · Apr 13, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by im a ghost

Str0b0, do you know how much dmg EoE does if 2 teams die exactly at the same time?

lets take IWAY with 9 BM for the example (9 BM is enough for IWAY to get +6 regen and max for the weapon) EoE does 36 dmg per death. Now lets say the team currently holding doesnt kill anyone and just holds, thats 16 people left alive at the end of the battle.

16 people dying at the same time * 36 dmg for EoE = 576 dmg. All that dmg is dealt in a fraction of a second. Unless the holders all have over that amount of health they are pretty sure to die.

"Droping the spirits" doesnt always work if you have around 5 sec left to the battle trying to stay alive. Like in our case (I was with Rusty when it did it), We had to bodyblock the enemy heros for around 15 sec as they had killed ours. Having sent a person to kill out the spirits might have cost us the battle.

And instead of saying that our attitude sucks because of a bug that has the potential of preventing what the winning team earned and then telling us to "find a way to counter it", you can just go f... and don't come back until you actually have a way to counter it in ALL situations.

--[FBI]Shaun

IWAY...there's your problem right there. /still not signed

mint · Apr 13, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

IWAY...there's your problem right there. /still not signed

iway isn't what he's OP is complaining about...it's the game mechanic that causes all opposing party members to die at the end of a match that he is saying needs to be fixed. No one is asking for an EoE nerf or whether the skill is 'broken' or not...the argument is simply concerning the mass auto-death at the end of a round that triggers EoE. As stated earlier, an added mechanic to simply rez the winning team's party 3 seconds after the victory would be a sufficient fix. I'm not sure where all the argument is coming from

Banin Galori · Apr 13, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

IWAY...there's your problem right there. /still not signed

Please, don't be simple minded and pick out an irrelevant fact to defend your point.

Like so many people have said beforehand, this petition is not about nerfing Edge of Extinction. In fact, if it's balanced, I wouldn't change it, and neither would anyone here, I'm fairly certain.

What this petition IS about is fixing Hall of Heroes mechanics that prevents the winning team from claiming their reward. Sure, you might have won. But if you're dead, you're not going to get your sigil.

It doesn't matter that Edge of Extinction can be countered. You can't ask EVERYONE to pack all those counters for the sole purpose of being able to claim a reward for winning. And frankly, it is damn difficult to counter something that is dropped a second before the match ends, no?

Think about this. How many skills in the game kill all your opponents around you instantly, at the same time? Clearly Edge of Extinction is not designed with this in mind. That is why the end of Hall of Heroes matches needs to be fixed, so Edge of Extinction does not prevent people from claiming their rewards.

xRustyx · Apr 13, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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lol rusty....still bitter about not getting that sigil?

/signed

I have lost more than 1 sigil to this. :<

Try not to flame people who are obvious idiots, such as Str0b0. It's been what, 10 replies, and he/she still doesn't get it. Hilarious, but nevertheless not the intention of this topic.

Unaccurate · Apr 13, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

Its called Mark of Protection, Countered. Stop whining you loosers, Or you could get outside of the spirits range. Or you could kill it. Or you could have some one with above 570 health. There are tons of counters, Think creativly.

1) its hard to keep EVERYONE about 570 health when you are getting attacked by two teams.
2) Lets run off the altar, the other team wont bother capping to win.
3)Lets waste a elite on a monk for a skill JUST to beat a bugged mechanic!